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05/03/06

Gonna Buy Laptop? Laptop Review

Filed under: Hardware, Laptop-Notebook — timwang @ 11:01:25 am

UPDATE: Check out my new review on the world smallest laptop pc - Sony VAIO UX!

UPDATE: Top 5 Student Laptops in 2007

I have been looking for a desktop replacement laptop for quite some time now - P4 1.8 GHz desktop to be replaced by a laptop. I had to brush up my hardware knowledge in a short amount of time. Let’s just say after hours of reading, I have learned much about the current laptop market and want to write a review of all the knowledge I have learned along with some reviews of the laptops that I have checked out, read about and tested. Hope this review will help someone to purchase a laptop for an education-related profession this summer. I am going to organize the review into different categories based on the laptop components that I think are most critical to identify and compare. The review is written for the newbie (plain English) which I was one a few days ago.

1. Laptop CPU Review (Central Processing Unit)

This determines the general speed of your laptop. The newest technology in laptops on CPU structure is Intel’s Dual Core (Core Duo in Mac Vocab) technology. In short, it means two processors engineered onto a single chip. Theoretically, you would get twice the computational power of a traditional single processor. Watch the following two Flash demos created by Intel, you will understand why dual-core and what is multi-thread calculation.
Why Intel Dual Core Processor
What is Intel Multi-Core Platforms

However, I do need to point out what’s coming on the horizon – AMD Turion 64 X2 or Athlon 64 for 64-bit processing. It is scheduled to reach the market by mid June or July 2006 which will cause the Intel Dual Core chip based laptops to drop price. The AMD Turion Dual Core will be 64 bits where Intel dual cores are 32 bits. If you want to dig deeper on AMD VS. Intel in the multi-processor race, read this review. For those of you trust my opinion? You don’t need to worry about the 64 bits processing until the year 2008 when the major software corporations upgrade their product line to 64 bits. But even then, can they be brave enough to discontinue the 32 bits supported products? I highly doubt it.

Conclusion on CPU, don’t buy a Pentium M (single core) notebook at this point, go for an Intel Dual Core laptop if you need it right now. If you can wait until the summer is over, go for an AMD Turion 64 Dual Core Processor based laptop. As expected, the chips use Intel's new model-numbering scheme. The Intel dual core products are labeled as T2600 (2.16GHz), T2500 (2GHz), T2400 (, 1.83GHz) and T2300 (1.66GHz). I have chosen a T2500 (2GHz). Today’s laptop technology makes it possible to upgrade CPUs down the road, but it does depends on the particular laptop you buy and expect for an expensive labor cost.

2. Laptop Graphic Cards Review (or GPU – Graphics Processing Unit)
A graphic card is probably the second most important in computer hardware configurations. It determines how well you run the graphic based programs (where 99.9% of the software programs today have fancy graphic user interfaces). If you ever want to use the laptop to watch video contents, view animations or play games, you must know your graphic card chart well. When it comes to graphic cards, I put them into two categories: Integrated Graphics Cards, and Add-on Graphic Cards. Simply put, if you are going to use your laptop mainly for surfing the net, checking email, word processing, 2D graphic design and occasionally playing some games, a laptop with an integrated graphic card would do for you. However, if you work with animation creations, multimedia developments (e.g. video rendering) or game playing (3D games like Quake 4, Half Life 2, Far Cry, FEAR, Battle Field 2), you do need the add-on graphic cards. The graphic cards makes a huge difference on laptop prices, but the one thing you can bet, the more expensive the graphic cards are, the better 3D support they provide. The top of the line graphic cards today are: ATI Radeon X800, ATI Radeon X800XT, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800XT, Nvidia Go6800. Nvidia Go7800, Nvidia Go6800 Ultra, Nvidia Go7900GS, Nvidia Go7800GTX, Nvidia Go7900GTX. These graphic cards come with minimum of 128 MB GPU memory and the Go7900GTX comes with 512 MB Memory. In the common laptop brands: Dell, Toshiba, Sony, Lenovo (IBM) and HP, Dell XPS 1710 is the only laptop that comes with the Go7900GTX card and of course it’s overall performance is also the highest. In general, Nvidia cards have higher 3D benchmarks over ATI cards based on the similar models. Here is a very well written article on Mobile Graphic Cards, read it for a better understanding on the graphic cards comparisons. Don’t worry, this article is also written for newbie.

Conclusion on Graphic cards, try to get an add-on graphic card when your budget allow and don’t go for the high end ones if you do not play games. I personally believe ATI cards are good for video editing and nVidia cards are great for gaming. Please note that it is awfully difficult (almost impossible) to change the graphic card on laptops for upgrade down the road, therefore, think wisely and choose carefully.

3. Memory (RAM)
Hardware people would tell you, when you have a limited budget, the most “bang-on-the-buck” investment would be computer memory. Same thing for the laptops. If you don’t want to invest an extra $400 on a 512MB graphic card, or $300 on the next line of CPU, you can always choose to spend an extra hundreds dollar or so to get a memory upgrade.

My opinion is that don’t settle with 512MB RAM today, go for the minimum 1G. Do make sure the laptop has room for further memory upgrade because if you want to use Windows Vista, 1G is the minimum requirement. You might need to kick in another 1G pretty soon. Laptop Rams are fairly easy to upgrade.

4. Screen, Laptop Size and Weight
Two types of laptops today if we categorize them by size and weight, the desktop replacement laptops and day-to-day carry around laptops. The desktop replacement laptops come with 17 inch wide screen and heavy bodies (8 lbs to 12 lbs) while the day-to-day carry around laptops ranges from 9 inch to 12 inch to 14/15 inch with a weight from 3 lbs to 7 lbs. My experience tells me that you don’t want to carry an 8 lbs+ laptop walking around. A good trick I learned from the forums is you should find out the weight of the particular laptop you want and put books with equivalent weight into a backpack and walk around. Trust me, avoid buying an over-weight laptop!

One thing to note is that many manufacturers today (Dell, Toshiba, Sony) offers ultra-bright and ultra-sharp LCD as an upgrade option for their laptops. If the price is under $250, I’d suggest you go for it. Because they do make a huge difference when you watch a movie or play games. These screens used to cost over thousands of dollars a couple of years ago.

5. Hard Drive
Laptop Hard Drives are easy to choose, the common ones today are 60GB, 80GB, 100GB and 120GB in two different speed 5400RPM and 7200 RPM. The second one is relatively faster than the first.

I suggest go for 80GB which gives you enough space to hold contents and software and not blow your pocket. Speed wise, if you are not don’t any video editing or running software that needs constant access of the hard drive, 5400RPM would simply do it. Other wise, spend the extra $350 for a 7200 RPM drive. Laptop hard drives today are easy to replace and upgrade.

6. Battery
Now battery life has everything to do with the parts mentioned above. If you use faster CPU, powerful graphic card, bigger and brighter screen, and a large hard drive to watch movie or play games, well, good luck with your battery life. Laptop batteries come with different number of cells: the 6-cell, all the way to 10-cell Lithium Ion Battery. The higher the number of cells, the more power it stores. But like I said, if you do heavy duty tasks with your laptop, plug it into the wall!

7. Peripherals

- Make sure the laptop come with enough USB plugs. (at the least 2)
- A 5-in-1 or 6-in-1 card reader will be really handy on the road
- DVD burner would be nice when you have a smaller hard drive (smaller than 80GB )
- All laptops today have wireless card build in, but you might want to check on Bluetooth. It would be useful since more printers, communication devices and home appliances are Bluetooth equipped.
- A IEEE 1394 Port (Fire Wire) is important for video editing
- DVI Connector for the new laptops and Mac cinema displays
- S-video out if you want to project the laptop content to home TV

Personal Picks
Here is list of laptops I personally recommend, Google them or check with your local venders for the latest prices:

$1000-$2000:
Lenovo (IBM) ThinkPad T60, for around $1550, this is a fast enough laptop with a dual core processor and ATI X1400 graphic card for normal computing an home entertainment. Specs: 5.1 lbs, Intel (1.66 GHz Core Duo), 512 MB, 14.1 in TFT active matrix. The specs are little low I would say, but for daily computing, this is more than enough.

Sony VAIO SZ120P/B, one of the smallest dual core laptop available in the market today. With a LCD of 13.3 in TFT active matrix, the laptop is only 4 lbs. I have seen the local London Drugs carry this laptop with NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 (128MB Dedicated Memory) as the graphic card, you may even use this laptop for some high end gaming experiences. This laptop comes just around $2000. If you wait for another month, I bet it will drop to $1900 or lower.

Dell Inspiron 6400, a very nicely priced unit, for under $1800, you can get this laptop bundled with Intel® Core™ Duo processor T2500 (2MB Cache/2GHz/667MHz FSB ), 15.4 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen SXGA+ Display with TrueLife™, 1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 100GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive, and 256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory™. This set up is good enough for daily computing plus home entertainment and gaming purposes.

$2000 or above:
Apple MacBook Pro, comes in either 1.83 GHz or 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo processor, 1 GB DDR SDRAM, ATI X1600 and 15.4 in TFT active matrix. With a light weight of 5.6 pounds, this laptop is ideal to carry around or use as a desktop replacement computer. The ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics processor is good enough for almost all of today’s newest games and it has great video play back capabilities. One can get this unit for around $2500 which is worth the investment by far. One thing I do want to point out is that with the Mac Boot Camp, you can install Windows XP to this machine as well!

Dell XPS M1710, now this is a monster Laptop; it is one of the top 3 laptops available in today’s market. With the Intel dual core processors, 1GB + RAM, NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS (GTX) with 256MB (512MB ) DDR memory, this is the fastest laptop with a popular brand name (one of the Dell, Toshiba, Sony, Lenovo, Asus, Apple and HP) you can find on the market. With a similar price as the MacBook Pro, PC users certainly also get a bang-on-the-bucks product on this product as well.


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Comments:

Comment from: Jim Sibley [Visitor] · http://ipeer.apsc.ubc.ca/wordpress/
Buy a small laptop....if you can possible survive with less power and a smaller screen....you will never go back to a BIG laptop.....I have a old Dell X200 and a Lenovo X41 tablet with the 6 hour battery. Both are great!
PermalinkPermalink 05/09/06 @ 11:58
Comment from: Kevin Yap [Visitor] · http://rhumba@livejournal.com
Thanks for the great Laptop FAQ/Review. It's incredibly informative and is great for newcomers to laptops as well.

I have added a syndicated seed of your blog for LiveJournal users.

http://syndicated.livejournal.com/timwangrss/

Thanks.
PermalinkPermalink 05/19/06 @ 03:50
Comment from: zenpcs [Visitor] · http://www.zenpcs.com
Well, with the new MacBooks out, a small powerful and relatively affordable laptop is the way to go. Being able to lug around all your data is really convenient.
PermalinkPermalink 05/25/06 @ 02:27
Comment from: Akshay [Visitor]
Thanks for the very informative blog. The explanation of the Dual Core and the comparison to AMD was quite useful.
PermalinkPermalink 06/14/06 @ 04:48
Comment from: shelly [Visitor]
Thank you for stopping by my site
PermalinkPermalink 07/05/06 @ 18:49
Comment from: Geoff Clayson [Visitor]
Hi there Tim, I'm pretty new to all this computing business and thinking of buying a laptop for uni. I was considering buying the Dell XPS M1710. Will this be able to run Half Life 2 comfortably and still have enough room for work related stuff...? Thanks, Geoff.
PermalinkPermalink 07/07/06 @ 12:05
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
Geoff:, you bet! XPS M1710 is one of the fastest (top 3, I would say), and best priced unit among the top laptops. It will allow you to run merely any games out there in the market today. I think it is good enough to run any games that coming out in the next 6 month. I played Counter Strike Source and Half Life 2 Demo on it, ran smoothly with the highest settings. Here is a hint for you: if you are a heavy gamer (spend over 5 hours a day playing games), get the graphic card upgrade for GO 7900GTX with 512 MB RAM. If you are an occasional gamer ( only plays 1 or 2 games and no more than 3 hrs a day), go for a RAM upgrade. You should get at the least 1G on board RAM today.

Regardless, XPS M1710 is a fast computer out of the box. You won't regret it.
PermalinkPermalink 07/07/06 @ 12:39
Comment from: Geoff Clayson [Visitor]
WOW! Cheers Tim! Great help!
PermalinkPermalink 07/09/06 @ 07:02
Comment from: Geoff Clayson [Visitor]
Sorry to bother you again, but do you think it would run San Andreas comfortably?
Geoff.
PermalinkPermalink 07/09/06 @ 12:28
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
Geoff, glad I can help. For Grand Theft Auto, it has lower system requirement than Half Life 2. According to the official Grand Theft Auto San Andreas' recommended system requirement:
- Intel Pentuim 4 or AMD XP Processor (or better) - XPS M1710 has dual 2.0+ Intel P4 CPU
- 384MB RAM - XPS M1710 has 1000+ MB RAM
- 4.7GB Hard Drive Space - XPS M1710 has 80+ GB HD
- 128MB Video Card - XPS M1710 has 256+ video card (this is crucial, try to get the upgrade to Nvidia 7900 GTX with 512 MB Ram, you will have a screaming gaming experience)

So, in summary, as I said, the XPS M1710 will keep you good with any games on the market today and the next 6 months. Good luck!
PermalinkPermalink 07/09/06 @ 15:08
Comment from: Geoff Clayson [Visitor]
Cheers...again!
PermalinkPermalink 07/10/06 @ 11:53
Comment from: Nina [Visitor] · http://www.matchware.com
Thanks for the article. Would you recommend the Apple MacBook Pro 15.4 inch to be used for graphic design? Also, how would you rate the new mac mini.
PermalinkPermalink 07/13/06 @ 12:15
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
Hi Nina, a MacBook Pro 15.4 inch is good enough for graphic design. One needs to differentiate between game needs and graphic needs which choosing a laptop. A graphic card is good with 3D rendering maybe a great choice for Gamers but not a good choice for graphic designers. In general ATI cards are great for graphic designs and video rendering. MacBook Pro uses ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 128MB / 256MB GDDR3 memory which is optimal for graphic designing.

One thing you should consider is to get as much RAM as possible. You should have at the least 1GB of SDRAM for a starter. Softwares like Photoshop CS2 will drain your memory.

Screen, 15.4 inch is a bit small for graphic designers, but hey, laptops are for moving around, get a bigger lcd at home and plug it in when you need to is good enough. So, go for it! I think the majority of graphic designers out there are using Mac anyway.
PermalinkPermalink 07/13/06 @ 16:03
Comment from: Keith Wolman [Visitor]
I want to buy an XPS 1710 and have keep it for gaming for about 3 years, 4 if Im lucky. Im concerned about DirectX10 coming out and the fact that it currently has the Nvidia Go7900GTX when the 7950 is already out. I like to play online games like World of Warcraft as well as off line games like Elder Scrolls. There are a bunch of new online games coming out 2006Q4 and in 2007. Do you think Dell will release the 7950 to this laptop and when? Do you think based on my gaming interest I should even bother waiting to see? Is 3-4 years unrealistic to expect to play the type of games I like even if I buy the 4 year warranty? Thanks, Keith
PermalinkPermalink 08/14/06 @ 02:02
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
Hi Keith, XPS 1710 is a great computer and with Go7900GTX (512 on board memory), it would be one of the fastest laptops out there today. Well, it's been the fastest for quite some time now (almost half a year). The 7900GTX is still the fastest single GPU based graphic card for laptops out there. The 7950GX2 is a dual GPU on one single board which is similar to the “dual CPU” idea. However, the HEAT and SIZE are the real challenges to the laptop producers. Dell has worked hard to fit 7900GTX into the XPS1710, and it is still burning hot which a laptop cooling board is needed for most of the time.

So, simply put, I think it will be another 4-6 months before any better graphic cards come out for laptops and even then, heat is going to be an issue which means you will need to carry extra fans for it. So, get the XPS1710 now and it will keep you good with all the games you mentioned plus the new games coming out in the next 2 years. I don't think any computer (laptop or desktop) will keep up with the software industry for 4 years. Good luck and choose wisely. Tim
PermalinkPermalink 08/14/06 @ 12:36
Comment from: Ice-Man [Visitor]
What are your thoughts on these broadband wireless cards that the cell phone providers are offering now for laptops. Do you have any experience with these. How is the coverage/speed. Any preference on carrier? Are these only external cards or are some manufacturers offering these as internal cards?

Lastly, I am really leaning towards tablet notebook. Any thoughts on if the technology is too new to gamble with? Some models just feel flimsy. Anything else I should keep in mind??

Thanks!!

PermalinkPermalink 08/23/06 @ 21:29
Comment from: rubi [Visitor]
Graphics
i am ordering laptop,but there r sth confused me,
Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950
128MB dynamically allocated (RAM/Video) memory

means dedicated or integrated?
thanks
PermalinkPermalink 08/24/06 @ 11:23
Comment from: Sabbi [Visitor] Email
I am looking to buying a laptop to do more video editing ...capturing/editing/burning..etc...but I want something very easy...Apple seems to be the way to go but I am lured by the other...Fitju? and others that have the TV tuner capability..what do you think?
PermalinkPermalink 10/26/06 @ 23:29
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
Sabbi, it all depends on your budget, the new Mac book core duo is always the top choice. However, if you are considering a PC, make sure it's got enough RAM (1G+), a fast, big enough hard drive (7200RPM and 100G+), and most important, a top-of-the-line ATI card (X1600 or X1800).
PermalinkPermalink 10/30/06 @ 02:21
timwang, not to forget the important bits like a battery that doesn't explode into fire ;-)
PermalinkPermalink 10/30/06 @ 15:38
Comment from: Kevin [Visitor] Email
Oh, I should also mention what I use the computer for.

I am in college, and I need something lightning fast as far as the internet goes (especially with pdf files, ppt's, word documents, etc).

I would love some sort of wireless internet connection (wifi? i think its called). Um, I guess CD burner would fit my needs. I am most likely going to be downloaded tons of music and videos.

My university supplies free virus software, so that shouldnt be a problem.

Umm, i might play games if the laptop can handle it. like half-life 2, or quake 4, etc.

i dont know much about computers, so this whole post might be unnecessary information. i currently am using a 32mb RAM Dell PC - same one for the last 3, almost 4 years of college! Let's just say this old thing teaches me a LOT about patience.

OK, look forward to your reply!

Thanks
PermalinkPermalink 12/05/06 @ 23:02
Comment from: Kevin [Visitor] Email
Sorry for flooding your blog with posts, but I just realized how little of a price maximum I left you with.

So, if 650 is absolutely not enough for an excellent laptop, what about $800? $1000? $1200?

BASICALLY, my parents are buying me one for my birthday, and they are well off enough to be convinced to go higher than 650 if I am persuasive enough.
PermalinkPermalink 12/05/06 @ 23:05
Comment from: John Ling [Visitor] Email
I was going crazy looking to get a decent carry round laptop and wanted to either play WOW or maybe the new MArvel MMORPG when it comes out. I had my heart on the sony vaio you stated as i have come into some money. but as u, did research into graphics cars and the 7400 is not great but do you think your comment on playing high end games such as these will be doable, i am looking for medium to average performance not expecting mircales,,do you think this laptop is fairly future proof in hardware for 3 year? I have to say your review is awesome and has really helped me.
thank you
PermalinkPermalink 02/03/07 @ 10:24
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
Hi Kevin:

Sorry didn't get your posting on my blog earlier. I just got back from a 2 months of holiday. Anyway, in regard to your need, I'd suggest a standard Dell Inspiron would just do it. You don't need any high end machines, trust me. With today's technology, an Inspiron with a fast enough graphic card (not high end, but a brand name like ATI or nVidia, don't get the on-board graphic cards). You will do just fine. For a cheaper solution, you can look into Lenovo (previousely IBM) or ACER. They have just equally good computers, but lack of good support just to point it out. Cheers!

However, for a laptop cheaper than 1000, it usually comes with a on-board graphic card which means you may have some problem with the games you want to play (Quake 4). But if that's your budget, try Toshiba Intel Centrino Core Duo T2250 1.73GHz Laptop or Acer Aspire Intel Centrino Core Duo T2250 1.73GHz Laptop.

Tim
PermalinkPermalink 02/05/07 @ 12:45
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
John, the nvidia 7400 is an intermediate graphic card, along with ATI Radeon X1400, they replaced the X600 and Go6400 respectively. which means it would handle the games you have mentioned. However, to play them at the highest resolution and graphic features, you will experience lag. If you can add an extra giga bytes of RAM memory would help the situation as well. Good luck!
PermalinkPermalink 02/05/07 @ 13:50
Comment from: michael [Visitor] Email
I'm a graphic designer...but a rare one that has always been on PC. I'm not convinced that I gain that much from a mac vs. pc but I am considering a new laptop purchase that will replace my desktop but allow me to work when I'm at a hotel or on location. I do some video.

Here's what I will be migrating FROM:

P4 2.8
2 gb memory
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 (dual display)
ATI TV Wonder Pro (for A/V capture)
I'm also spoiled with a 300 gb drive (don't need that much space though)

So that gives you an idea of what I'm working with now. It works. But it can be SLOW...I was working with someone's DELL laptop and it screamed in Adobe Photoshop and the like.

I'm very interested in what you would suggest. I primarily work at my home office...but will need to be able to run Adobe Creative Suite when I am on the road at clients, conferences, etc. I'd prefer one system but maybe there's a solution for upgrading my desktop and utitlizing a laptop.

Thanks.
PermalinkPermalink 02/16/07 @ 17:30
Comment from: timwang [Member] Email · http://blog.loaz.com/timwang
Michael, I can't compare a desktop over a laptop, but if are asking me the key components for a graphic designer's PC configuration, I can tell you: 1) fast CPU, 2) Good memory, 3) fast (not just big) hard drive, 4) decent graphic card. For the existing setup, I'd think the NVIDIA 6600 may not be the best choice to do 2D graphic design, compare to an ATI card.

Anyway, if you are choosing a laptop, one from the Dell Inspiron Series would be good enough. The downside of this is they don't come with ATI cards.... It's hard to find reliable, high-end PC laptops come with top of the line ATI cards... Maybe this is another reason Graphic Designers choose MAC? But because Dell's integrated components are quite efficient, you should get very decent performances from these computers. Now whether to get an Inspiron or an XPS is depending on your budget. Remember, grab as much memory and a fast enough hard drive as you can. Good luck.
PermalinkPermalink 02/16/07 @ 18:19
Comment from: segun samson [Visitor] Email
buy a laptop now
PermalinkPermalink 05/16/07 @ 10:08
Comment from: Ben [Visitor]
I would recommend you go for the Dell XPS m1330.
PermalinkPermalink 08/28/07 @ 13:23
Comment from: SHERI [Visitor] Email
Hi, I'm hoping you are still out there. I have a Inspiron 5100 - pretty basic and SLOOOOOW. Just a housewife using for email, surfing etc. but I really want fast - don't have time to wait around (4 kids - little)! Hopefully, fast enough so I can pass down in 3 or 4 years to the oldest kid for high school? Thanks so much for any information you might be able to give me. Sheri
PermalinkPermalink 10/17/07 @ 10:33
Comment from: Tracy Esau [Visitor] Email
this is a very good blog for the people very basic knowledge about computers and who are willing to know more about them.
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